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Re: Xavior

Post by Tony* on Sun Nov 28, 2010 10:35 am

old lol Very Happy
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Post by *Hule* on Sun Nov 28, 2010 1:54 pm

Sorry mates to bump this thread.. But

Torres wrote:Wow! A Swastika. U have some nerve m8 Smile
First of all, I think thats' from a video clip/movie -sort of thing he was making back then or something. Don't believ he'd wear a swastika as you seem to know it in his sleeve.

Secondly, there's nothing wrong with a swastika really. As far as I know it's a lucky symbol used in numerous places and contexts WAY before Hitler took it and adapted it to represent his nazi -move. Even the Finnish air forcec used it, although in a different angle, before it was taken by Hitler.
What's wrong with swastika is that it is connected to Hitler everywhere we see them, and thus it becomes bad and inaproppriate.

In my opinion, swastika, the common lucky symbol with a very long past, should be made temporal and taken into everyday use. Perhaps this way, in time, the 'bad shadow' hanging on it could be erased and its true meaning brought to light again.


Yea sorry, this was TOTALLY off-topic. So please continue..

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Post by Tony* on Sun Nov 28, 2010 1:57 pm

I totally agree with you, ofcourse when you see it in the white circle in a red square (as in the picture) you can say it refers to Nazi.. but I don't find it any offensive if I come across it.. It IS still a symbol of luck. ;O
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Re: Xavior

Post by lone on Mon Nov 29, 2010 11:09 am

In Belgium swastikas are illegal.

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Post by *Hule* on Mon Nov 29, 2010 1:31 pm

I thought they were illegal pretty much everywhere. Or atleast highly frowned upon. Maybe I'm wrong though.

And please, someone tell me wether I should write "frowned" or "frown" upon?? xD

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Post by lone on Mon Nov 29, 2010 2:10 pm

I think you need "frowned"

http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=frown+upon&word2=frowned+upon

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Post by Boomlala on Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:51 pm

lone wrote:In Belgium swastikas are illegal.

I actually don't think so. I do think the police may see it as 'gang activity' (neo-nazi's) or 'instigating trouble' and arrest you on that basis.

But the symbol itself should be legal (otherwise Hindu's and Jianists would have trouble).

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Post by Saint on Tue Nov 30, 2010 5:05 am

..and also Finnish Air Force. lol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Air_Force

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Re: Xavior

Post by Tony* on Tue Nov 30, 2010 12:43 pm

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Post by *Hule* on Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:32 am

Saint wrote:..and also Finnish Air Force. lol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Air_Force
Yea sorry that's what I meant by writing "Finnish army". My mistake, mate.

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Post by lone on Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:30 pm

Boomlala wrote:
lone wrote:In Belgium swastikas are illegal.

I actually don't think so. I do think the police may see it as 'gang activity' (neo-nazi's) or 'instigating trouble' and arrest you on that basis.

But the symbol itself should be legal (otherwise Hindu's and Jianists would have trouble).
You're making me doubt.
I thought it was illegal for the same reason as the "hitler wave" and denying the holocaust.


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Post by Boomlala on Wed Dec 01, 2010 6:37 pm

The Hitler greet isn't ambiguous though. There are no other organisations using that.

And Holocaust denial is indeed illegal.

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Post by lone on Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:21 am

Didn't the Romans use the Hitler greet while saying "Ave"?

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Post by Boomlala on Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:02 am

Yes, but Romans (as in, part of the classical civilizations) don't exist anymore, unlike Hindu's and Jianists.

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