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Re: BNP

Post by daryo on Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:43 am

Matthew wrote:
daryo wrote:macro fun? are u ppl serious? how much have u studied macro???? i've had a decade of whining about macro...and it's not fun.

sry to bug in ur debate...it's nice...continue XD

Do you prefer micro?

even worse kaput

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Re: BNP

Post by Bruce on Tue Feb 23, 2010 7:18 am

Matthew wrote:More people than you think; they've been winning various elections (at local and European Parliament level) in certain Northern constituencies. And they do have a point, to some extent, as immigration is seen as a problem nowadays.

So its led all the mainstream British parties to try and win the "white" vote by shifting emphasis towards stricter immigration policies; which is a good thing to an extent...

Although, I don't see whats wrong with some aspects of immigration:
If the "natives" of this country complain that immigrants "steal" jobs, then they should pull their finger out and take it upon themselves to work harder for lower prices - forcing the immigrants away, and benefitting the consumer through greater productivity and consumer surplus. They shouldn't rely on government to force immigrants out for them - the nature of the free market allows for the barrier-free movement of all factors of production (including the labour force).

Having said that, there is quite a large cultural shock that comes with immigration, and all the social problems that arise from that (which are often quite vast or serious). Besides, some of the new regulations introduced under the current government have been far too progressively liberal as opposed to classical liberal; like that introduction of positive discrimination against natives in favour of immigrants (shifting the balance too far in the other direction) and subsequently distorting the economy and social spheres. If the country was left at the mercy of the market rather than the state, the economy would sort out those deemed productive and efficient regardless of race or creed. The market does not discriminate.

Anyway, the BNP is a socialist party economically, and the worst type (nationalist), so I would never give my vote to them, but they are no worse than the rampant islamo-fascist organisations we see over here (groups such as Islam4UK), so it's a pretty bad mix.

Which is why im emmigrating to Hong Kong when I'm older, because the current mainstream parties (like Labour and Conservatives) are over-arching, feckless and spineless taxmongers lolol

Gonna shift this conversation back to BNP for a bit. cherry

I agree, BNP are doing so well because of the current government is failing so badly, they would be doing even better if nick griffin wasn't such a idiot and saying stupid shit and meeting people like KKK leaders.
BNP'S success is all down to Labour.

I'm left wing but I still want fairness even if people are fascist/racist I don't know if any of you watched question time with nick griffin where he got absolutely decimated, the whole audience was anti BNP and the whole show was 100% about him which never happens, in the end I think more viewers felt sorry for him which probably got him more votes. Razz

Even though labour has caused BNP'S success a conservative government will make absolutely no difference, I really think their is something wrong with the working class people who are the majority who keep voting for Labour/Conservative.

Also the BNP is the ONLY nationalist party in the UK that gets a bad reputation for being nationalists, all the others like Islamic nationalists group don't, which just helps their case.
For example It is alright for a black person to have a black only party and people will respect that but if a white has a white only party it is racist.... the current state of culture in the UK is weird.

Edit: The current state of UK in general is fucked up, I've been considering going to Canada once I finish uni Razz

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Re: BNP

Post by Matthew on Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:09 am

Bruce wrote:

Edit: The current state of UK in general is fucked up, I've been considering going to Canada once I finish uni Razz

Same, but I was thinking Singapore or HK xD
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Re: BNP

Post by Xris² on Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:06 am

I've always wanted to go to the US and A.
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Re: BNP

Post by Boomlala on Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:31 am

Canada seems cool.

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Re: BNP

Post by Saint on Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:06 pm

I defo want to move to either HK or Japan.. <_< GB is so fecked up

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Re: BNP

Post by lone on Wed Feb 24, 2010 5:48 am

Sweden defenatly

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Re: BNP

Post by Bruce on Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:59 am

Hong Kong way to crowded for me, although I do like the Japanese language.

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Re: BNP

Post by cobRa on Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:45 pm

wouldnt mind goin to somewhere in america
i heard compton is good in the summer

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